Track Experts Busy Forecasting Find Yale Sure Winner Today But None Can Agree On Score

Harvard 40, Yale 95; Harvard 64, Yale 71; Harvard 67 1-2, Yale 67 1-2,--what will be the score of the Harvard-Yale track meet in the Stadium at 3 o'clock this afternoon? The first is the figure of a Yale sympathizer, published on Wednesday in the Yale Daily News; the second figure was arrived last night at by a Harvard adherent; the third, the tie, is the score deduced by the Harvard track management and published in the program which will be sold at the meet this afternoon for the amusement of any speculative spectators.

That the final score of this afternoon's meet will be 67 1-2 to 67 1-2 is, of course, absurd. That is a score which occurs not once in a decade. It is an arbitrary figure, arbitrarily arrived at. As such it may be discarded here.

But the other two predictions deserve more serious consideration. Both the Harvard and the Yale man have made sincere efforts to forecast the score of today's meet. That their conclusions differ by some 25 points only shows the degree of their college spirit. Each man is going on the assumption that all the men from his college will do better than their best, and that all the men from the rival college will do worse than their worst. That is an unwarranted assumption. In actual competition this afternoon, it is practically certain that some men from each team will fall short of expectations, and some surpass them.

But it is interesting to study the two dope sheets, prejudices and all. The Yale prophecy was written by Mr. Paul Barnett, director of publicity for the Yale athletic association. Summarizing his conclusion, event by event, the result is as follows:

In the 100-yards dash, Norton and Locke of Yale should place first and second, with Robb of Harvard finishing third.

Norton is also to win the 220-yards dash, and Allen and Arneil, his team mates are to take what is left of the places, as "there is no furlong runner at Harvard who should even make it interesting for this trio of Yale sprinters."

The quarter will aso be easy for Yale. Gage, Shipman, and Allen of Yale taking all three places.

Yale Concedes Watters' Supremacy

Watters of Harvard is conceded first place in the 880 yards run in view of the fact that he clocked the remarkable time of 1.55 1-5 in this event at Princeton last week. But Geilfus of Yale will take second, while Yale's captain, Douglas, will fight for third place with his team-mate, Bannon.

Captain Douglas will also win the mile; Cutcheon of Harvard will take second; and Gault of Yale will capture third place.

Tibbetts of Harvard is admitted the victor in the two-mile run, but the value of his win will be partly neutralized when Tracy and Treadwell of Yale between them win second and third places.

In the hurdles, Yale is to win 17 out of a possible 18 points. Cole, Bullard, and Durant will paint the finish line blue in the low hurdles, and Bullard and Milliken, of Yale, will take first and second in the highs, leaving Fletcher of Harvard to collect Harvard's lone point in third place.

Field Events to Yale

A few more clean sweeps for Yale will come in the broad jump, pole vault, and hammer throw. "Comins, Cheney, and Weinecke are better than anybody Harvard has, and should finish in that order.' Schlopp, Durfee, and Yale will pin the nine points for the pole vault without trouble. And Earl, Lufkin, and Marting will clean up for Yale in the hammer throw.

Harvard is given big concessions, however, in the high jump, as Gerould will probably win that event, with Hyatt and Jenney fighting for third, after Gifford of Yale has taken second.

Bench will win the javelin, in all probability. He will be closely pressed by Kernan of Harvard, while another Allen of Yale is due to take third place.

In the discus, Mr. Barrett predicts that Carpenter should give Harvard five points in this number in view of his recent "unofficial" record of 152 feet in the Virginia meet. "Dunker of Harvard probably will win second place, and third will be a contest between Graf of Yale and McCoy also of Yale."

Eastman will win the shotput, and Dunker will add three more points to the Harvard total. Esselystya and Chamberlain of Yale seem due to cinch third place between them.

That ends the horoscope of today's meet, as cast by an ardent Yale man. The final score, according to his reckoning, is Yale 95, Harvard 40. Now, shifting to the Crimson point of view, it is interesting to note the differences in the various events which the Harvard adherent hopes will give Harvard the more creditable of 64 points to Yale's 74.

Even this adherent admits that Harvard can win the meet only by a miracle such as that performed by Coach Bingham's team two years ago in defeating Yale by 70 13-15 points to 64 2-15, when all the so-called track experts had predicted an easy Yale victory. Now that Allen is out with a tendon pulled the last day of practice, the Harvard advocates are forced to deduct from their total the eight points which they had hoped he would win in the 440 and 220-yards dashes today, and the result is fatal to their chances of victory.

But looking at the situation in the most optimistic way, this is the manner in which the Harvard adherent plans that his team will keep within gunshot of the Eli forces this afternoon:

In the 100-yards dash, Norton of Yale is a sure winner, but Robb, a Crimson sprinter, seems able to beat Locke of Yale down the straightaway to second place, if he is able to repeat his splendid race against McKim at Princeton last Saturday.

The 220-yards dash, according to the Harvard adherent, will be a replica of the 100-yards dash, with Norton in first place, Robb in second, and Locke third. Robb will be under a severe strain to take second in both races, but it is not impossible in a Harvard-Yale race, where nerve often counts as much as previous performances.

Allen's Loss Serious

In the 440 Allen's absence will hit the crimson hard. Gage and Chapman of Yale will be able to take first and second place between them, while Kane, Allen's best substitute, will probably take third place.

The 880 is the first race so far where Harvard is conceded an advantage over Yale. Here Watters is an acknowledged victor, and the only question seems to be, will he be able to break the 1.54 record made by Brown of Yale in 1914. Geilfuss of Yale will take second place, and Chapin of Harvard ought to come in for third.

The male will be still more of a crimson sweep. Watters, repeating in this race, has the endurance to win another first place, if his record at Exeter and on the Freshman team can be taken as evidence. Second place will go to Cutcheon of Harvard who teamed with Watters on the four-mile relay team which won the intercollegiate championship at the Penn Relay Carnival this spring. Third place will go to Captain Douglas of Yale.

In the two mile run, Harvard will take another first place with Tibbetts, who, if pushed at all, ought to make a sturdy assault on the dual meet record of 9.34, made in 1916 by Overton of Yale.

In the hurdles, Bullard of Yale will take first place in both the long and the short race. Fletcher, Harvard's foremost hurdler, has been improving by leaps and bounds of late, and there are rumors of remarkable times which he has turned in over the hurdles in practice lately. If these rumors are true, Fletcher should be able to take second in each race. Millikan of Yale will take third in the high hurdles, and either Cole or Durant of Yale will be third in the lows.

Turning to the field events, it is impossible to give the Harvard team much of an advantage in the pole vault or the hammer throw. In the pole vault, Schlopp and Durfee, both of Yale can outvault by a large margin Combs or Atwater of Harvard, who, however, ought to manage to take third place between them.

Elis Should Sweep Hammer Event

In the hammer throw, Yale is conceded its only clean sweep by the Harvard prognosticator. Harvard's only man of power is Berglund, whose inability to stay in the circle on the long throws rules him out as a serious contender for points in today's meet. The Yale scorers ought to be,--Earl, first, Luikin, second, and Eckart or Marting, third.

All the other field events may be viewed in a more rosy light. Mr. Barnett, in forecasting the meet from the Yale standpoint, overlooked the ability of Hyatt to come through in surprising moments in both the broad and the high jumps. And it is on this fact that the Harvard men, who remember Hyatt's winning high jump in the Yale meet last year, pin their hopes for several points. Gerould and Hyatt, then, both of Harvard should take the first two places in the broad jump, while Gifford of Yale will have to content himself with third place.

Yale has an impressive collection of broadjumpers. Comins is an easy winner, as his 23 ft. 73-4 in. jump in the Princeton meet would indicate. His team-mate, Weinecke, did over 22 feet in the same meet, but Harvard optimists are hoping that Hyatt will be able to come through with a jump which will beat that. In that case, Yale will get six points and Harvard three from this event.

In the shotput, the Yale and Harvard prophets agree, strangely enough. Both predict that Eastman will be first, Dunker second and Esselstyn of Yale third.

Bench of Yale will win the javelin as his 184-ft. throw in the Yale meet with Pennsylvania three weeks ago is better than any thing that Coach Farrell's men can do. Kernan, however, will be able to take second for Harvard, and Greenidge, first place winner for two years, may be able to take third, although an arm injury has kept him from practicing for a dangerously long time.

The final event is the discus throw. Here it is hardly necessary to say that Carpenter will win, as he has been doing 140 feet regularly in practice, and on a great occasion like today, he may be able to rise to the 152 foot mark he set some weeks ago in the Virginia meet. Hallowell, another Harvard plate thrower can take second place, and Yale's third place will be won by Graf or McCoy.

Looking at matters in this light, Yale's score comes to but 71 points, while Harvard rises to 64 points. There is quite some difference between this result and the 95-40 total arrived at in New Haven. As a matter of fact, the true score today will probably be some where between these two estimates. Taking a mean average of the two scores, the real result of this afternoon's meet will be